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inabottr
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How do I apply for a Schengen Visa?

First and foremost, one has to download the application form and fill it in cautiously and honestly. The application form has the same format no matter which country’s visa it is that the applicant is applying for.

Bear in mind that:

One shall download the latest form of the application since that is the only form accepted.
The application form can be filled in either by handwriting or by typing into it. The applicant has to sign the form in the corresponding gaps.
Careful not to leave any columns blank. If the applicant feels that there are columns that don’t correspond to his/her matter, fill them with NA (No Answer)
If the applicant is a minor, the parents have to submit a written consent and also sign in the corresponding column of the application form
In case the applicant is filling the form by hand, using black color is recommended.

Where should the applicant apply?

It is true that once issued a Schengen visa, one is eligible to travel within the whole Schengen zone being that the visa Schengen bureaucracy is the same in every Schengen country, however there are some predetermined rules and regulations due to where/which embassy/consulate must the applicant apply in for a Schegen visa in order to be traveling to their desired Schengen destination.

In cases where the applicant will be traveling to one and only one Schengen country, the applicant has to apply at the appropriate embassy/consulate of the certain country. Whereas if the applicant is planning to visit two or more Schengen countries, it is highly recommended to be applying for the visa in the embassy/consulate of the country you will be residing in for most of the traveling days, referred to as the main destination. In case there is no main destination but just a random visit to several Schengen countries, the applicant has to apply for the visa in the embassy/consulate on the first Schengen country he/she will enter according to the itinerary.

Once it’s determined in which embassy/consulate one will apply in, the applicant will apply in the embassy/consulate of that country that has jurisdiction of over at your place of residence.
When is it that one has to apply?

Unfortunately there is no fixed answer to this particular question due to different time-frame policies of the embassies/consulates in different parts of the world. Nevertheless it’s highly recommended to apply for a Schengen visa around six weeks prior to ones departure, in order to make your trip as planned.

Although it takes no more than 72 hours for processing a visa in general, there are times when this process takes quite much longer, for 14 up to 21 days in some countries concerning some citizens.

In some embassies you are able to walk in at any time and submit the documentation meanwhile in some other you MUST make an appointment prior. If you are planning to travel on a short term, the appointment must be made no more than 6 weeks in advance. This rule doesn’t apply to the applicants who are applying for a long-term visa.
What happens if there is no embassy/consulate of the certain Schengen country in the applicant’s place of residence?

In some third world countries there might not be an embassy/consulate of the particular Schengen country you need the visa issued from. Nevertheless, that doesn’t pose any problems since in these cases there are embassy/consulate representatives of the country that represents the interests of the country in the matter as well as their own which are responsible to issue the applicant the required visa.

In case the applicant is denied the visa due to inability to provide the necessary documentation or proof that he/she meets the standards to be traveling in a Schengen zone there is a possibility to apply again at the embassy/consulate of their desired destination in a neighboring country.
Can I apply for a Schengen visa in a country where I am not a resident?

Yes. If you must apply for a Schengen visa in a country where you are not a resident, the justification why you are applying from that country will suffice.

The applicant must attend the designated meeting in person when handing the application form and the attached documentation. At the consulate, the applicant shall not be accompanied unless he/she is a minor, of sensitive health or not able to perform any locomotive activity. In case the applicant is not able to speak English or the language of the Schengen country whose consulate he/she is applying in company is recommended.
If you fail to attend the embassy/consulate appointment without a prior notice of 48 hours the request will be cancelled and you will have to undergo the procedure once again.
Beware!

Although the applicant submits all the required documentation and proof the consulate/embassy has the authority to deny him/her the visa since there is no right to a Schengen visa whatsoever. The magnitude of the documentation will assure the applicant that the request is accepted and will be preceded yet it’s never a guarantee to an issued Schengen visa. Regarding this matter it’s highly recommended not to make non refundable travel arrangement prior to getting the visa.
What do I do if I urge to extend the Schengen visa?

In case of any trustworthy reasons, personal, occupational, medical or otherwise, the applicant has to turn to the corresponding institutions in the Schengen country of residence and apply for an extension of the Schengen visa. The extended Schengen visa will give the applicant the right to visit the same Schengen territory as the original visa issued. A visa extension may not result in duration of stay exceeding 90 days. Go to the web and get other information.
schwelgenx3
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The most important thing the embassy need to be convinced when issueing a tourist visa is the chances of you returning to your departing country. I dont think been sponsored by your boss is an issue, but it looks very fishy. First of all, is your boss sending you to NL for work training? or your boss is so nice that he will be sponsoring your trip to go see a girl you have never met before?

Do you have any strong tie that will convince the embassy that you will be back? Any properties? Are you studying? do you have a contract from your boss with pay slips and tax documents? any business? The burden of convincing the embassy that you will return is your duty and even if your intention is to come back, you will most likely be denied if you cant documentarily prove it.

Unfortunately, getting a tourist visa for Nigerians is very hard, a pre-emptive measure to intercept visa overstayers. If your ''online girlfriend'' can visit you in Nigeria first, then moving with her to Europe will be very easy through the EU route.
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inabottr wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:05 am How do I apply for a Schengen Visa?

First and foremost, one has to download the application form and fill it in cautiously and honestly. The application form has the same format no matter which country’s visa it is that the applicant is applying for.

Bear in mind that:

One shall download the latest form of the application since that is the only form accepted.
The application form can be filled in either by handwriting or by typing into it. The applicant has to sign the form in the corresponding gaps.
Careful not to leave any columns blank. If the applicant feels that there are columns that don’t correspond to his/her matter, fill them with NA (No Answer)
If the applicant is a minor, the parents have to submit a written consent and also sign in the corresponding column of the application form
In case the applicant is filling the form by hand, using black color is recommended.

Where should the applicant apply?

It is true that once issued a Schengen visa, one is eligible to travel within the whole Schengen zone being that the visa Schengen bureaucracy is the same in every Schengen country, however there are some predetermined rules and regulations due to where/which embassy/consulate must the applicant apply in for a Schegen visa in order to be traveling to their desired Schengen destination.

In cases where the applicant will be traveling to one and only one Schengen country, the applicant has to apply at the appropriate embassy/consulate of the certain country. Whereas if the applicant is planning to visit two or more Schengen countries, it is highly recommended to be applying for the visa in the embassy/consulate of the country you will be residing in for most of the traveling days, referred to as the main destination. In case there is no main destination but just a random visit to several Schengen countries, the applicant has to apply for the visa in the embassy/consulate on the first Schengen country he/she will enter according to the itinerary.

Once it’s determined in which embassy/consulate one will apply in, the applicant will apply in the embassy/consulate of that country that has jurisdiction of over at your place of residence.
When is it that one has to apply?

Unfortunately there is no fixed answer to this particular question due to different time-frame policies of the embassies/consulates in different parts of the world. Nevertheless it’s highly recommended to apply for a Schengen visa around six weeks prior to ones departure, in order to make your trip as planned.

Although it takes no more than 72 hours for processing a visa in general, there are times when this process takes quite much longer, for 14 up to 21 days in some countries concerning some citizens.

In some embassies you are able to walk in at any time and submit the documentation meanwhile in some other you MUST make an appointment prior. If you are planning to travel on a short term, the appointment must be made no more than 6 weeks in advance. This rule doesn’t apply to the applicants who are applying for a long-term visa.
What happens if there is no embassy/consulate of the certain Schengen country in the applicant’s place of residence?

In some third world countries there might not be an embassy/consulate of the particular Schengen country you need the visa issued from. Nevertheless, that doesn’t pose any problems since in these cases there are embassy/consulate representatives of the country that represents the interests of the country in the matter as well as their own which are responsible to issue the applicant the required visa.

In case the applicant is denied the visa due to inability to provide the necessary documentation or proof that he/she meets the standards to be traveling in a Schengen zone there is a possibility to apply again at the embassy/consulate of their desired destination in a neighboring country.
Can I apply for a Schengen visa in a country where I am not a resident?

Yes. If you must apply for a Schengen visa in a country where you are not a resident, the justification why you are applying from that country will suffice.

The applicant must attend the designated meeting in person when handing the application form and the attached documentation. At the consulate, the applicant shall not be accompanied unless he/she is a minor, of sensitive health or not able to perform any locomotive activity. In case the applicant is not able to speak English or the language of the Schengen country whose consulate he/she is applying in company is recommended.
If you fail to attend the embassy/consulate appointment without a prior notice of 48 hours the request will be cancelled and you will have to undergo the procedure once again.
Beware!

Although the applicant submits all the required documentation and proof the consulate/embassy has the authority to deny him/her the visa since there is no right to a Schengen visa whatsoever. The magnitude of the documentation will assure the applicant that the request is accepted and will be preceded yet it’s never a guarantee to an issued Schengen visa. Regarding this matter it’s highly recommended not to make non refundable travel arrangement prior to getting the visa.
What do I do if I urge to extend the Schengen visa?

In case of any trustworthy reasons, personal, occupational, medical or otherwise, the applicant has to turn to the corresponding institutions in the Schengen country of residence and apply for an extension of the Schengen visa. The extended Schengen visa will give the applicant the right to visit the same Schengen territory as the original visa issued. A visa extension may not result in duration of stay exceeding 90 days. Go to the web and get other information.
well done, you've practically detailed everything here,thanks Boss,but please can you drop the link to download the form, and please can you detaill the documents and requirements one has to provide to avoid Visa denial,I am for German tourist Visa,will tour Austria and Belgium,
inabottr
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Post by inabottr »

you can visit the link for more information. but first your host has to send you an invitation letter. As i n the case of your boss sponsoring your trip, that is not a problem at the embassy all you need to do is to submit your boss's statement of account alongside your application. pray pray and pray as they may think you are an immigrant in disguise that won't want to come back. so think of a genuine reason to back up your invitation. http://www.schengenvisainfo.com/schenge ... uirements/
fungere65
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I am looking at possible relocation to Amersfoort In the Netherland, I will appreciate tips and living standard available in that area please.
cauhabanhj6
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Post by cauhabanhj6 »

fungere65 wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:55 am I am looking at possible relocation to Amersfoort In the Netherland, I will appreciate tips and living standard available in that area please.
hallo, nearly 150.000 citizens Amersfoort
is one of the 15 largest cities of the
Netherlands. It is an historic, versatile
city with a variety of architecture, art,
culture and nature. Especially the well-
preserved historic city centre makes a
visit extremely worthwhile.
Well I don't really know much about Amersfoort but I got a website for you in which can tell you more than I know.

www.amersfoort.nl
Or visit the English Version


www.amersfoort.nl/mobile/Amersfoort/Con ... glish.html
Sekotrs
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Post by Sekotrs »

Hello,


I have lived in the Netherlands my entire life. So I know it well. For anyone trying to go to the Netherlands a fair warning:

First:

Housing:

if you do not have either business income to show for, a job, are not connected to someone or have lots of cash (to be able to put 6 months in as an extra deposit (normally 1 month), to get housing is a difficult task. Especially for black people, even worse for Africans.

- When you say that you are Nigerian, you may notice many doors not opening, due to the very negative propaganda there is about Nigerians (but mind you, many white people that catch a flight to Lagos to do business, are Dutch), Ghanaians dont have that much negativity attached to them other than them being "African" . For black people of any culture it is very difficult to obtain housing..unless you meet the requirements above, than with private rentals it may still be down to the preference of the owner, but with realestate agents, you will have less problems (ofcourse because you will pay, higher rents,have to show more income, etc)

-I have known many friends who have just been able to receive public housing (via the public system (cheaper, opportunity to receive subsidies, lease protection,etc), and this after 10 years of struggling..from room to room, overpriced private rentals etc.

- Dutch people like their peaceful neighborhoods. africans talk loud and have loud music in their opinion. This is also why you see more Nigerians gravitate to the housing complex in the "ghetto" Bijlmermeer. They call it that because many black cultures live there. Over the last years, they have done a great deal of refurbishing, building expensive housing to gentrify (increase numbers of white people) that area, as its close to a very important businesshub " Amsterdam Bijlmer Arena". So many houses in that area arent even offered through the public system anymore.

- So if you didnt come in through your job, wife/girlfriend or family, than know that you have a very difficult time ahead. Well more than the former that is.

For cost of living comparisons use this site, prices are quite accurate: http://www.numbeo.com


Jobs:
- Right now is a very bad time for black people to find a job. Even highly educated white folks are struggling.
- Technical engineers, It engineers are still in high demand. The biggest chances you will find are in IT, but mainly software/application/game development or Project/Information managers (experienced, with references)
- You will notice that increasingly employers (most often for the better paid positions, but the middle companies are getting a taste for it too) are using a very intrusive system of investigating your resume up to 10 years back (by using agencies to very everything about you)
- No matter how good your papers are, in the end many are taken in by your personality. Its very subjective..but thats the way it is here.

First, many Nigerians, will either own their own businesses in the following areas:
-clothing
- barbershop/hair-/nailsalon
- grocerystore
-import/export
- transport related business (parcels, cars, taxi, etc)
- gypsy cabs (= very illegal, but very much an accepted practice in the Bijlmer (Amsterdam)) among black cultures
- handy men
(these are the most common and visible choices)

Second, or have Jobs in:
- restaurants (in the back)
- cleaning
- hotels (cleaning, washing)
- security (once they have the official papers)
- warehouses (orderpicking, etc)

But even obtaining these jobs is very difficult, because you are up against many with clear and reference experience. A person who came in through his white wife, had to struggle for years with temporary jobs via agencies here and there, untill just recently a company he has worked for for years fihas finally decided to offer him a contract for 18 hrs a week as a cleaner (this will probably make him 500-600 euro a month). Sounds alot? Wel not in the Netherlands it isnt. But because they are together, he atleast brought something in.

There arent many of them but you also have those that are in:
- bookkeeping/accounting
- in hospitals (doctor/lab)
- IT

(I have worked in big international companies..have not seen one general manager, project managers, sales manager, marketing managers,etc of any african descent other than Caribbean (Suriname, Antilles) and most of the time that was me..But africans..none.

Third, or you will see Nigerians simply go back and forth on business visa for all kinds of business relating to Nigeria's main products (Cars, etc).

The jobmarket is crazy now here, many are losing their jobs. Still the highest group able to get jobs are whites. But even in their group the unemployment is high. The news does not reflect this. I once had to accept a minimum wage job, out of straight desperation. What i noticed is how stressed practically 95% of the staff was when the owner dared to be late at one point with the payment of the salaries. Everyone was in straight panic..(white, black..the lot). Many are living on their last paycheck. BUT their is still much wealth...yes, usually with those 50 years and up.

Starting a business is fairly easy. In an hour your business is registered, and within 1 week if all is well, you can have a business account (the ones with a residence permit ofcourse) (Many even within a day).A bookkeeper is 700-1000 euro a year on average. But renting a premises is way more difficult (unless you have cash to show for), and usually a minimum of 5 years lease. Some will accept 1-2 years. However many things will cost money, so dont go in without advice from chamber of commerce and a good bookkeeper.

If you are hard worker, resourceful, on time, stick to agreements, show integrity,and have tough skin, you have a chance. (and some cash too).

Many nigerians that claim or have shown to have "made it", had their (white) European spouse blowing wind in their backs (husband or wife),
The rest is grinding like anyone else. (I have seen those that made it through the grind..they "made it" for real. But its a tough tough road.

Relations:
- As I said, say you are Nigerian, you will receive all the negative consequences in the minds of people. People here are not vocally racist in general. Usually covert and some overt in their practices. (either behind your back..or making derogatory jokes they feel you should think is funny)
- Ghananians and Nigerians (the biggest African group) usually do not like one another. Each side speaks badly about the other away from them. Up close they tolerate on another..some are even friends.
- I have heard Nigerians say they were from Ghana just to not deal with the BS from people.
- If you are the kind that can live a quiet life, work hard, be tidy, and be like the Jones"s..than you can have a good life. The ones that can't usually live close to their people.
- Many Nigerian friends have moved away from Netherlands due to the covert racism..


Healthcare:
will cost atleast 1300 euro a year on average

Public transportation (tram, metro.bus):
atleast 50-70 euro a month for one person travelling daily within one zone. Train is more expensive (http://www.ns.nl).

or get a loadcard like many, nameless/anonymous is 7,50 personalized is free (they can track your every move, but you can also take subscriptions with this one). Buses/trams/metro, will deduct 4 euro's per ride as a minimum, and then deduct the fee of the ride (so a minimum load of 4 euro's is always required)
- trains 10 euro,minimum load at all times. (otherwise you cant even take the train)

Safety
- Police is racist, so you have to deal with a rough attitude on average when you are black
- Be prepared to get asked for your papers often as a man
- However if you are just living your life, you will not see them
- Here people are not so afraid of the police, so the police can receive a big mouth too on occasion. It depends on where you are stationed.
- Many things happen..burglary, rapes, all kinds of stuff. So safety has definitely deteriorated. In one year alone in my street many dangerous situations occurred and I live in a fairly nice suburban neighborhood. I felt more safe in Nigeria actually.

Groceries:
on average a family of two can do with 120-200 euro a month. If you are going to eat stews/soups every day. Be prepared that this is costly..even bought once a week. the 200 is more average..120 is really maybe one person or 2 people cutting it very close..Palm oil here is about 5 euros..A kilo Yam is 10 euro. Beef about 12 a kilo, chicken is about 6 euro a kilo.


Netherlands has nice roads, very structured, lots of bureaucracy, no corruption on a civil level (usually on a higher one), if you know the rules their are many ways to obtain recourse. If you dont have money you can hardly move around an average trip from suburb to city, will cost you 3-5 euro's oneway, smaller cities (about 50-60% of that), unless you live near a citycentre (usually all you will need is a good bicycle, and condition).Jobmarket is tough, minimum wage is about 8,50 per hour. Speaking Dutch language is required to obtain a job. English is spoken..but will be harder to obtain jobs that way. But try to speak their language, and you will score points. But still speak just English when you are there for 2 years or more..Than they will dislike that. They consider that lazy.

My advice: do a basic course, will cost about 36 euro's. For instance via.. http://www.2speaklanguages.com

No matter what Europeans want to speak their own language in your country, but you have to speak theirs in their country. Just learn to play the game in your favor.

Miscellaneous
-Try to get another account than a yahoo..for instance gmail.
- Do not sollicit for private information over the internet
- Do not give your id to anyone over the internet, or ask for it just like that
- learn about basic customs and laws in The Netherlands. They are very high on that.
- Do not Try to chat women up online (facebook etc)

Personally:
- I know the rules and regulations, i grew up in this nation, worked hard, paid hard. It is NOT a paradise. For the last few years I have been one of the few black people you see commuting towards their jobs. I have really noticed this.Only those that have a job, working both of them (couples)..can make it here or those willing to share discomforts.
- I personally say, build your lives in Nigeria. While you are moving away, whites/asians are coming in..before you know it..you will be begging them for a job in your own country. Dont allow this, by having your sights on sodom (because that is what Europe is). I have seen too many get wicked from staying here..cheating family, friends just to survive or their own wicked reasons.
- There is good, there is bad..but definitely not perfection. But hey, some would still rather give their last arm to come here, rather than build their own country.

So that's it
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Very interesting
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